Hillary Defeats Obama in Polls

I don't know my friend I have seeded a few and wrote one that I thought would make it there, but Alas it did not. I hope this one goes for you I will stop by every so often to see if there's someone I can poke with a stick.

Good Luck

I will vote y'all up!

my pleasure!

I think Chris Christie Gov of NJ is what we need. He is a strong conservative that understands over spending and fiscal responsibility.

Agree Tom!! I saw him Sunday on Meet the Press....he was VERY inspiring, although he said he would NOT run...perhaps we should NUDGE!!! With Marco Rubio as VP!! Whooo Hoooo!!

I would rather DIE than have Hillary!

I am on the same page Cristie/Rubio would be almost unbeatable. Neither is carrying the political baggage the others are.

I send an email everyday to Christie, maybe he will get tired of me cyber stalking him and run.

ok, you email Cristie and I will email Rubio and perhaps we can create a match made in Heaven! I went to one of Rubio's rallies. He was very good. Rudy Guilliani was there too.

gimme a break dogg you are probably much smarter than us.

Christie is a no nonsense take no prisoners get the job done conservative that would not except bs from obama or the unions.

I'll let FED fill you in on Rubio

Marco Rubio is the former Speaker of the House and served 8 years in the Florida House of Representatives. He is for lower taxes, better schools, lean, efficient government and free market empowerment. He is the son of Cuban immigrants.

He too is a no nonsense conservative and will put Obama out on the curb where he belongs with the rest of the trash!

He BEAT THE PANTS off of our current Gov. Charlie Crist who knew he was losing the GOP vote so he flipped to Independent and STILL lost!

GO MARCO!!!

Yow, Fed ..... a Christie/Rubio ticket would really be awesome. I know only a little about Rubio, but your endorsement just sealed the deal for me. Christie says no for 2012. His gov term is up in 2013. He's hinted at 2016. I don't think we can survive another 4 of Obama.

And look at the names and how musical and poetic they sound. Roll their names on your tongue .... Chris Christie ------ Marco Rubio. Each of their names flow ... Perfect together.

not like (gag) "mmm ... Barack Hussein Obama ... mmm" --- blech.

Sorry, I'm a musician and I think musically too much!!

christie Rubio sounds like a latin dance step

http://www.marcorubio.com/marco-101/

This should educate you on Rubio

Well, if Christie doesnt want it, Rubio can go POTUS and we have to find him a good VP...keep working on him Tom!!!

every day until he gets a restraining order.

haha...MSNBC is already trying to discredit him for a lousy 2100 bucks! Did you see the article? No wonder the GOP wont tell anyone who is running until the last minute

What is his email...I will email him too

Just popping in for a minute here .... Fed .... That $2000 was exposed by Holder and the DOJ right after 11/2. Forgive me if I'm repeating myself .... Christie overspent on those hotel bills around 6 years ago when he was US Attorney and this is all Holder and Obama can nail him for. What I read was that he wasn't able to find hotels within the alloted limits. Not sure. I'll try to find the article from my regional newspaper.

I'll gladly pony up the money and stuff it in Holder's freakin mouth.

http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/ ---- Christie's email address.

Back in an hour or so. It's either tonight or Friday that O'Reilly's interviewing GWB. Be good everyone.

yeah, I missed it just read it. Holder is a jerk!! Thanks, I wrote Mr. Christie. O'Reilly was good....so was Bush. OMG....they will be in my area tomorrow at 7 at the Barnes and Noble!! Will have to go!!

I thought Bush did well last night. O'Reilly asked some tough questions - tougher than Hannity or Lauer. Enjoy Barnes and Noble tonight!

Thanks for the Rubio link. I'll get to it soon.

Bush showed last night that no matter what happened during the last 2 yrs of his term, that he is a class act. Compare his calm demeanour to obama's rants and raves, who better portrays an American President. Not because of his skin color but because of the air of dignity he displays, instead of the animated fake body language of Obama strutting about the stage like an evangelical preacher. Much more suited to a community organizer than a President of the United States.

So now I have stated my UNBIASED opinion let the blasting begin as I am sure since I disagree with Obama's actions I will now be called a racist....... but only by the real racist on this thread.

Tom -- There were times during Bush's presidency where I felt that he didn't seem "strong" enough when talking to the press. But now, after I've watched his interviews with Lauer (videos are on MSNBC somewhere or I can email you the starting point because I haven't finished watching them), Hannity, but especially O'Reilly. I see a different man - confident, at peace with himself, very few regrets, and isn't bothered by what Obama and the press say about him.

What impressed me a lot is his respect of the "OFFICE" of the presidency, defending ALL Americans, and upholding dignity. I still don't see that from Obama. Except for GWB promoting his book, he doesn't want to be an ex-president like Carter and Clinton and always in the limelight. I think he's a humble man who is proud to have served our country even when people think he's a buffoon.

Re: Obama (I'll try to make this short but you know I never succeed) --- You call Obama's body language strutting, etc. My first impression is always a wannabe NBA hoops star. Watch him coming down the steps of AF 1 or coming onto a stage.... semi-trot with arms jiggling at the waist, fists clasped... "Hey world, look at me! I'm awesome!" All we need are more fist-bumps. How presidential (sarcasm).

If these few Obama criticisms make me a racist, I'll repeat what Christie tells people .... Bring it on. I'd say the same about any US elected clown who apologizes to the world, bows to enemies, doesn't uphold federal law (illegal immigration), and doesn't care that the USA is in deep sh*t and that he's become a serious contributor to the problem.

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On a different tack: To y'all --- I went to the supermarket today, saw cornbread in the bakery, and bought a small pan of it. I'll blame y'all for the 3 pounds I gain. (just kidding)

Hope you got some unsalted butter to put on it. BTW you can buy jiffy or Martha White corn bread mix for about .50 a box, that makes 6-8 muffins. It is sweet and firm. Be sure to use beer for the liquid and chop 2 jalapeno peppers and mix in the dough. great with chili. only takes 20 min. start to finish.

Tom --- As a matter of fact, I did buy sweet (unsalted) butter today and like it on corn muffins/bread. But, jalapenos and beer? I like each of them separately, but mixed? I'll reserve judgment until I try it. A box of Jiffy would be less expensive for sure ... I paid over $3.00 for this one that I bought today.

the yeast in the beer makes the bread really fluffy

gotcha

Come on....you guys are making me hungry!!

Bush was ALWAYS a CLASS ACT...so is Laura!

Too bad we cant say the same for our present situation

Fed --- You know that cornbread I mentioned? Gone! I did have a couple of partners in crime even though it was MY cornbread. Little did ladogg think that his thread would turn to food!

Did you get to Barnes and Noble? How was it?

Yes, the Bush family has always been a class act. Laura's been badmouthed as mealy-mouthed because she champions education and reading and for being dowdy because she wears conservative suits and elegant gowns (as opposed to muscle-armed rock star Michelle who wears a skirt, tee shirt and sweater outfit or flamboyant Wonder Bra gowns when hosting or visiting world leaders).

Michelle is definitely not in the same elegance class as Jackie, Nancy, Barbara, or Laura. I'm sure that on any other thread I'd be called a racist hater for saying that, and that's not true at all. I just have a mind-set for how USA leaders and their spouses should present themselves to the world in diplomatic situations.

Amen to that, michelle looks like a $5.00 call girl. and Obama a pimp

She was scheduled to go to Mumbai's red light district and meet with a group of prostitutes - I kid you not. Wonder if she went?

lol...thanks for the good laughs!! Is it just me, or is Michelle ignoring her own advice? She looks like she has a LOT more JUNK in her TRUNK these days!!

I did not make it to B&N, the news showed that people waited 5+ hours to see him so glad I didnt go up.

Glad you enjoyed your cornbread....gotta look up that recipe for you, had a busy real estate weekend!! My boys are playing football tonight and we BETTER beat the Patriots!!

I want to know why she wears her belts above her navel. Is that a female Steve Urkel thing posing as haute couture? The only times I moved my belts or waistbands up that high was when I was pregnant!

Darn -- was hoping you got to see them, but I'm glad that the line wait was so long. So much for libs saying that GWB, O'Reilly, and Fox are bogus, unpopular, and phony.

Take your time with that recipe ... I have to walk off the cornbread calories first!

Good luck to your team!

she definitely has widend in the rear living off the tax payer. lobster and shrimp dinners will do that when the only exercise she gets is flapping her lips at us about our diets.

haha...good one Tom. Another case of do as I say, not as I do! 2012 cant get here soon enough!!

NJ...she THINKS she is the cats meow! Funny you mention Steve Urkel, she DOES look like him

***NEWSFLASH***

Jeb Bush is talking about throwing his hat in the ring for the 2012 elections! Bush/Rubio?? Whats the word from Christie??

Fed -- Wow, in Bush's interviews last week, he said that Jeb wasn't going to run. This is going to be interesting! Christie says no for 2012, maybe 2016. I'm not so sure he'll wait that long though.

Local news interviewed him this am but I cant find the link on their site

That'd be something if he ran and won. Three presidents from the same family - historic!

You BETCHA!! The Kennedy's got NUTHIN on the Bushes!!

Hey NJ! I will adopt ya! Come on down!! The weather is PERFECT!! Just bring us down some tomatoes, because ours taste like cardboard!! Sweet Jersey corn would be nice too...if ya dont mind!

As to the race card...he is NOT black, he is mulatto, perhaps THAT is what "bothers" them so!

You are right...they thought he was going to pay off all their mortgages, send them big checks every month...he let them down!

Fed -- You're sweet! Thank you! It's getting really chilly up here. I'm pickling the last of the tomatoes this weekend. Got a batch from my neighbor that she was going to throw out because of frost. Y'all come up here and I'll give you some! If I y'all-ed, you'd make fun of me, because I'd probably sound like "yawwwl" - Ha, ha!

Fed - we're not allowed to say mulatto anymore - It's not PC. I'm seriously SICK of everyone ignoring his mother's side. When they remember, he's .... "bi-racial" and I say pfffffft on that.

Christie .... he's my man. Doing great for NJ in less than a year. I watched O'Reilly tonight. What I said about that $2000? It happened around 6 years ago when Christie was US Atty. It was HOLDER and DOJ that started this after Tuesday's election. So judicial is interfering in politics/legislature! They're running scared and want to stomp Christie down before he gains a more positive profile than he already has. They can't get away with calling him a fat pig, so they pounce on $2000 as if he "stole" mega-millions from us and went on a South East Asia or Spain vacation. (I do wish that he'd lose weight though - for his own health)

Did you ever see the 2008 interview Howard Stern did with Harlem (NYC) voters?

So NJ I guess the big question is can you eat what we eat or have we got to bring in one of them New Yoke city chefs?

We would show off the 1st night with Fatback, Collards and Hocakes of cornbread. darn now I'm hungry.

(Not worrying about being off-topic, because this is your thread) ....

Nah, I don't need NYC chefs. Stop making fun of my accent. Besides, it's NYers who say New Yawk ... not New Jerseyans.

I make two VERY good collards dishes (one is Brazilian and served with black beans/rice) and I love cornbread. So there. What's fatback? Bacon? Is a hocake a hot cake (pancake)? Up here, "ho" isn't a nice word, evans .... you can ask Don Imus about that!

OK, here's the deal ... you folks make fatback and hocakes and I'll bring Taylor Ham Pork Roll and REAL bagels. Taylor Ham is a NJ product - you can't find it even in NYC ... decadently greasy and delicious.

All this food talk has made me hungry, too. Looking forward to that famous southern hospitality (Scotch and smokes included)!

Also ... maybe I should have reworded a post I made on ladogg's thread about common sense. Food names in the US seem to be different. Interesting.

Ok here is the Southern food break down in case you meet some one from New Jewursey ( jersy.)

Collards are only made on top of the range with bacon drippings and salt with a chunk of bacon or ham hocks in it........We don't eat casseroles, unless we are to weak to eat real meat and potato's type food.

Fat Back is a part of the pig around the belly. It is like bacon but no lean only fat. It is salt cured and cooked with the rind on for crunch. Makes your BP go up just thinking about it.

Hoecakes or hocakes are small oval flat cakes similar to a pancake but it is made from white/yellow cornmeal blend fried on a griddle in bacon drippings. The name comes from the slaves of the old south that would take cornmeal to the fields and would cook it on the blades of their hoes to have a hot meal. Thus the name and shape has always stuck.

Did not mean to drop into history mode. May be ladogg won't delete us for being off topic.lol

Yep, I know that collards are made on the stove with bacon and/or ham. I learned from my student teaching mentor. At the risk of sounding "racist," (have to be careful these days) she is black. Awesome teacher, singer, pianist, and cook. After 35+ years, we remain in contact. She's in Ohio and I visit her and her husband every couple of years. The other recipe is Brazilian (again from blacks/slaves period of that country) also on the stove top but with garlic and lemon. Works well with black beans and rice.

Fatback sounds artery-clogging and BP raising for sure. Is it a hot meal or what I can get up here in the pretzel and chips aisle called pork rinds?

I've heard of hoecakes but never had them. Sounds very tasty. At the risk of appearing northern ... do you put maple syrup on them? (I'll probably hear evans laughing all the way up here)

I think ladogg will be cool with off-topic like this. Right, dogg?

so are you mad at me or what? you don't ever call me by my last name?

Not laughing did that several years when a friend was visiting from Maine, he put syrup on them but he did use the southern cane syrup. Best to eat as you would cornbread. If you want some good southern recipes I will send you some by email to try.

The fat back you get in the meat case it usually comes in 1 lb pack and get the butcher to slice it about 1/8 of an inch thick. you can bake it or fry it. It is delicious, I limit myself to about 1 time every month.

Amen ladogg sometimes it is good for the soul to cut up a little. I needed the laughs more than I needed to argue with another damn liberal.......... You guys are good friends, and you need them in places like this.

Most definitely understand, I really had not thought anything about it. Most people want to stay a little anonymous on the net, and I have no problem at all keeping your identity that way. NJ and I email and she doesn't want her name on the vine, that is why I just call her NJ.

I have always been very open even in the world of Internet. I guess because in my profession I have to talk to so many people of all backgrounds that I am accustomed to being under the microscope. If I had known how people on this site would use your education, beliefs, accomplisments and even charitable works against you I would probably be posting as Jethro bubba or such.

always did like a challenge, and the country life, oh well the carnage may continue.

ok "yins guys" have been up all night talking about food...so where's breakfast?

NJ..did you ever try Corny Corn Bread? Its made with creamed corn and cheddar cheese in a cast iron skillet! Mmmmmmmmm!!

@ Dr. Evans -- "so are you mad at me or what? you don't ever call me by my last name?" --- Did you direct that at me? I'm confused. I've always called you Dr. Evans here - I slipped and forgot the Dr. once or twice and keep forgetting that it's OK to call you Tom. Yes, I'd like your recipes. I'm always willing to try new things.

@Fed -- is "yins guys"the same as y'all? NYers and some NJyans along the Hudson River say youse (pronounced use), youse guys, or my favorite .... yizz. Yuck. I had to quit around 3AM - too hungry and sleepy! Slept until almost 9. Never had Corny Corn Bread - may I have the recipe? I don't have a cast iron skillet - will a stainless steel one work as well? Hmmm.... there's a thought ... add cast iron skillet to my Christmas list.

@ladogg -- I'm correcting a mistake: I called this Tom's thread when it's yours. Sorry! He's right about how I keep my real name private here except with people I feel comfortable with. There's a good reason. Around the time of Obama's campaigning, there was a Viner who was stalking me, threatened me, told me she knew where I lived, called me a racist, lesbian, other horrible names. I was fairly new and got scared, so I emailed Newsvine - copied/pasted her posts, because reporting her on the thread got no response from moderators. Some guy started emailing me doing the same thing plus sexual talk. So, emailed about that, too. I don't know what happened to them, but the emails directly from their Newsvine accounts stopped. I threatened NV with contacting my lawyer if they didn't take action. Usually, I let people's attacks on a thread roll off, but when they contact me via email to attack, that's too intrusive for me.

No worries about sharing your name. You're using a work comp. Thanks for the seeding tips. I tried once, but nobody came ... lol. What I really want to do is what you did with common sense. Write an opinion and let people have a go with adding theirs to mine. If nobody comes, you, Fed, Tom, and I can talk about food instead! Also, I don't know how to delete/collapse if I'm the originator.

If they gave prizes for the longest posts, I'd surely win. Good grief .... I talk too much!

Oh, and I want to thank y'all (smile) for reminding me that I haven't had corn bread or a corn muffin in ages. I'm drooling for some now.

haha...Yins guys is Pittsburghese for you guys, y'all...you can take me out of Pittsburgh, but not the Pittsburgh out of me!

I will have to dig out the recipe, its on the back of a phone book page!! Goes great with Chili, but have not made it in a long time! Will be the project for the weekend!

oh and yes, you better add the skillet to your Christmas list...it has to BAKE in the oven in the skillet....something about the skillet makes the meal!

cast iron skillet is best

Fed --- ha ha about yins. Glad to know that I'm not the only northerner in this group. Take your time with the recipe. If my pan/skillet isn't right, I'll not get a cast iron one until Christmas. My stainless steel one can go in the oven, but I know there's a big difference with cast iron. My grandmother had one ... wish I had it!

Oh ... had a miracle happen today. My meatloaf recipe (4x6 index card) has been MIA for 10 years. It's yummy, but I've been winging it from memory all these years - never came out right. Just found it today in an old cookbook that I'd tossed in the garage!

Hi, Tom --- youse/yins guys is making me hungry again! What's the plural of y'all .... y'alls? lol

ya'll is the plural of you. Examples below.

singular: Where are you going

plural: Where are ya'll going

To put more southern in it contract the sentence:

Where ya'll goin

Down here we call that cracker english

Ohhhh ... so y'all DO say you. I thought that y'all was singular and plural - just take "you" and adding on. I'm starting to understand this foreign language. <wink> -- My first experience with NY/NJ "youse/yizz" was during an interim job I had years ago. On a Monday, a co-worker asked me, "Whad yizz do this weekend?" Quick thinking and I understood her. Nice girl, but not all cylinders firing in sync.

Glad we're on the same page about Christie and Rubio, although I have to read more about Rubio. Seems like he's like Christie, so I'm in. Every day in my regional newspaper brings more revelations about Christie and his spending cuts of abuses that liberals hate - ARC, NJEA and state union top execs, some state agencies with fed/state money but nobody's in the offices working, small town school superintendents earning >$230K plus bennies.

But, uninformed (or bitter) taxpayers think that hammering their children's teachers whose median earning is around $60K, 10 yrs experience and at least one Masters degree is the way to cut spending. They have no idea how much time and effort teachers give to their profession, continuing education, but most importantly to their students ... because all taxpayers know is "These people only work 6 hrs/day for 180 days."

Oh, my - I'm again way off-topic, but as you know, education is a topic that's personal to me. If we in NJ leave education spending in the hands of Sens. Lautenberg and Menendez, for example, my county would continue to be buying multi-million dollar microscopes for a handful of students and rewarding a (now) fired superintendent (Aloia) for that as well as his national/international travels and gourmet meals that we paid for. We can thank Republicans, and especially Chris Christie, for Aloia's and other corrupt people's ousters.

Sorry NJ...Im in Florida!! I thought you were coming down for my election day celebration....I thought that was you that kept starting the WAVE. heehee.

I grew up in Pittsburgh and moved to Florida 27 yrs ago....couldnt take the snow anymore.......IN MAY!!

The windows are open, the ocean breeze is blowing....something DEVINE is in bloom....oh my! Just BBQ some steaks on the grill.

The YINS is a Pittsburgh thing, now I say y'all

Where are you at Tom?

Man, we are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off topic....sorry ladogg

I am on my way to your house, fire off them steaks and taters.

If you mean litterally, I am in Georgia, 8 miles east off ! 75 and 40 miles north of the Fla. state line

Ah, I am 3 miles from the beach!!! South of West Palm Beach. Come on down!! Bring some peaches and vidalia onions!!

Once a Southerner 'drawler', always. Just laugh. I've been back here (not South) and it still slips out....then I have to sweetly put on the act and you'd think I just got off the 'bus'. I am softer and stronger being off the farm from So. Louisiana, so I don't mind people laughing at me.

Hi, steelmagnolia -- Except for 4 years, I've always lived in NJ so I'm the only "real" northerner on this thread. It's been fun here though - ladogg doesn't mind that we're so off-topic. And these folks have been very kind to me in spite of my NJ accent. Mine isn't nearly as obvious as the "Jersey Shore" crowd though - at least I don't think it is! I'm learning about southern food, how to post a NV article, how to say y'all <smile>. I don't live in the areas most people associate with NJ. It's suburban, but it's not uncommon to see deer, wild turkeys, and black bears on my lawn and in the woods behind my house. When I first moved here, I thought this was "country" because there weren't any traffic lights.

Thanks, ladogg. You're very kind and so helpful to this nearly computer illiterate gal. I don't know why I can't understand NV's directions. I'll try to work on something this weekend. I just saw your article about Islam today. Only 2 comments there. I'm surprised, because it's a hot-button topic. I've yet to read your links and I will read them before posting. I have more I can add if that's OK.

I understand completely Tom, I too get frustrated with some of those on NV. Ive been busy at work and not on much myself. Hope to see you soon though...enjoy the vacation.

Fed --- Awww, I didn't mean to ignore you! <hug to Fed> Thanks for the recipe - this sounds really good and will make it as soon as I get that skillet. Do you have any recommendations for good brands?

I don't think that Tom will be able to be back on NV. He was ousted ... and very unfairly. Email him for details if you want.

Actually, I'm getting kind of sick of so many people on NV bickering and name-calling even on nice stories' threads. I don't know if other venues are any better, because this is the only one I've ever used.

denver catwoman posted a really good comment about Obama's racial ancestry recently. I remember reading exactly what she posted somewhere else, but I can't remember where I read it. Obama's 4/8 Caucasian, 1/8 black, 3/8 Arab is what she said. I can't fully agree though, because "Arab" isn't a race of people .... it's an ethnicity.

But no matter how you slice it, it appears that he's more white than black. The joke's on the people who voted for the first "black" president! Interesting is that I read that either Coolidge or Harding had black in the family but that could be urban legend.

To you and all my other friends here ... Happy Thanksgiving!

Hmmm....will have to contact Tom. Such a nice guy, too bad. I read his family said he was changing and was taking a break.....NV is getting to be a PIA!! Unemployed liberals bitching about life....they got what they voted for!!

Well, I just took my corny cornbread out of the oven...forgot how good it was!! Any brand will do, just make sure you SEASON the pan or it will rust!!

Ok, so I seeded a link....beat ya to it! It is actually quite easy. Your FAVORITE subject....come see!!

I emailed him, hope he answers. If not, you will have to tell me about the shaft. You are right, as long as you agree with the moderators and msnbc, you can say whatever you want, but God forbid you have a different opinion!! They can only thank themselves for the teaparty movement. All they wanted was a voice but they dont want to give it to them, so they are multiplying.

Yes, I do know what your favorite topic is....same as mine!!

Sorry, would have gotten there eventually, just really busy at work lately.